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[Fwarm]

But I don't understand a non-supporter board.

Once you find out how many lies the supporter boards propagate you will know why you need balance.

[little_eiffel]

ok, just a hypothetical question, what would you non-supporters do if the "new dna evidence" proves that the wm3 are innocent? are you still going to disagree? what? for the sake of the question, what if it points to jmb? or hobbs? or somebody no one knows?   ***this is just hypothetical***


as for the guy who wants to give me a test....first of all, i do not concern my self with a confession full of errors and secondly i am beyond worrying and dealing with an error filled confession from a person with an IQ around 73, especially all these years after the fact when there is new evidence coming to light. also, the thread was "What do You believe", i merely posted what i believe. You post what you believe, do I ask to give you a test because of it? no i don't, i still accept your belief although i do not agree with it.

[Farm]

You said you had read all the documents.  The test was to see ifyou really had, Andas  I expectd, You failed miserably.

[Fwarm]

ok, just a hypothetical question, what would you non-supporters do if the "new dna evidence" proves that the wm3 are innocent? are you still going to disagree? what? for the sake of the question, what if it points to jmb? or hobbs? or somebody no one knows?   ***this is just hypothetical***

This is more wishful thinking then hypothetical. I would do nothing but here is the problem the DNA is not going to give them retrial unless it is earth shaking this is all delaying Damien's execution. The defense team stated years ago that DNA testing had almost no chance of changing anything. DNA is a waste of time and money for defense unless they can buy time and that is all they ever intended to do. Don't buy into the hype that's all it is.

as for the guy who wants to give me a test....first of all, i do not concern my self with a confession full of errors and secondly i am beyond worrying and dealing with an error filled confession from a person with an IQ around 73, especially all these years after the fact when there is new evidence coming to light. also, the thread was "What do You believe", i merely posted what i believe. You post what you believe, do I ask to give you a test because of it? no i don't, i still accept your belief although i do not agree with it.

Actually Jessie's performance IQ is average in the mid 80's. They don't tell you this do they? You never heard that did you? They are lying to you. The confessions are not full of errors you have also been told this misleading information. You have to understand that the supporter movement is baseless without lies and misinformation. Truth makes it out to be the lie that it is.

[little_eiffel]

You said you had read all the documents.  The test was to see ifyou really had, Andas  I expectd, You failed miserably.

Like I said, the post topic was "What do You believe"....I posted what I believe....didn't think you would want to be a dick about it, I am not a dick about what you believe, you are entitled to it just as I am.

[little_eiffel]

ok, just a hypothetical question, what would you non-supporters do if the "new dna evidence" proves that the wm3 are innocent? are you still going to disagree? what? for the sake of the question, what if it points to jmb? or hobbs? or somebody no one knows?   ***this is just hypothetical***

This is more wishful thinking then hypothetical. I would do nothing but here is the problem the DNA is not going to give them retrial unless it is earth shaking this is all delaying Damien's execution. The defense team stated years ago that DNA testing had almost no chance of changing anything. DNA is a waste of time and money for defense unless they can buy time and that is all they ever intended to do. Don't buy into the hype that's all it is.

as for the guy who wants to give me a test....first of all, i do not concern my self with a confession full of errors and secondly i am beyond worrying and dealing with an error filled confession from a person with an IQ around 73, especially all these years after the fact when there is new evidence coming to light. also, the thread was "What do You believe", i merely posted what i believe. You post what you believe, do I ask to give you a test because of it? no i don't, i still accept your belief although i do not agree with it.

Actually Jessie's performance IQ is average in the mid 80's. They don't tell you this do they? You never heard that did you? They are lying to you. The confessions are not full of errors you have also been told this misleading information. You have to understand that the supporter movement is baseless without lies and misinformation. Truth makes it out to be the lie that it is.

As for the errors, no one has told me anything...it is what I have deduced on my own. I may be wrong...but it is what I believe.

[Farm]

We aren't talking about what you believe.

You stated as fact that you had read ALL the documents, and you were lying. simple as that.

And you know WHY you lied?

Because you are clever enough to realize how incredibly stupid it would be for someone to make the claims you made without having read them.

And yet, here you are making those claims without ever having read them?

[sunshinekitty1]

I don't think this was a santanic ritual murder.  I don't think the three boys were picked out ahead of time.  I think Damien (who was already mentally unstable) was really really agitated that day because his father had decided to walk out on the family that morning.  I think he was out in the woods drinking too much and smoking pot with those other two trolls, Jason and Jessie. 

I think that Damien probably saw the boys coming and wanted to have some fun.  He probably said "Hey, what'cha got there." And snatched the boys backpack.  When the boys tried to defend themselves, Damien attacked.  Then Jason and Jessie sprung to action too. 

I believe Damien and Domini went back to the scene that night, probably to scuff down the bank and to make sure he didn't leave anything like empty beer bottles at the scene.  I believe that their clothes, knives, everything dealing with the crime was disposed of the next day.  I believe both Damien and Jason's mothers did most if not all of the disposal while telling their sons to not say a word.

I believe within 5 seconds of watching footage of Damien in prison with the long hair (1996 I believe?) it becomes painfully obvious that he's crazier than a loon and is not on medication he so desparately needs.

I believe Mr. Bojangles is just rif-raf that got shanked by another bum over crack.

I believe that the families of the killers are so greatful for all this WM3 support because it makes them feel less guilty about knowing the real truth. 


 

[Farm]

I pretty much agree - especially with how it likely went down..

And while I don't know if the parents assisted with disposal, I have little doubt they knew their kids did it.

[little_eiffel]

We aren't talking about what you believe.

You stated as fact that you had read ALL the documents, and you were lying. simple as that.

And you know WHY you lied?

Because you are clever enough to realize how incredibly stupid it would be for someone to make the claims you made without having read them.

And yet, here you are making those claims without ever having read them?

No, I did not lie.....you may believe differently and that is ok, it is your right. In all actuality I think there needs to be all new trials because everything was all fucked from the beginning....inconsistencies from everywhere. I do not think they did it, but I could be wrong, but it is what I believe just as you believe otherwise.

Once again, the topic was "What do You believe".....I stated what I believe, and stated that I may even be wrong. I merely answered the topic question. I have no problem with what you believe, why is it you must be an ass to me for what I believe when it is my right? I don't get it, if you don't want to know what people think, then why post a topic on "What do You believe". To me it seems you do not want to know what people believe unless it is the same as you have, since all I have done is answered the topic question and caught hell for having a different belief on the subject and get called a liar.......in a way it is like being called a satanist for listening to heavey metal music and reading stephen king....hhmmm.

[Farm]

No, I did not lie.....

Yes, you did.

I don't know how to break this to you, but it is painfully obvious to those of us who HAVE read the documents, that you haven't

And since this is the case, what you "believe" doesn't really matter... you don't know the facts.

Have you ever heard these words:

"Ladies and gentlemen, I will remind you not to form an opinion until all the evidence has been presented".

Why do you think they say that?

[little_eiffel]

Just because I do not agree with you I haven't read the transcripts?!?!?

"Ladies and gentlemen, I will remind you not to form an opinion until all the evidence has been presented".

.....don't make me laugh, evidence was never presented!  only circumstantial bullshit that the prosecution had to scrounge around to find! Where is actual evidence? Something concrete that says they did it??

Make no mistake about it, I have read the documents and IN MY OPINION they didn't do it...and that is the majic words IN MY OPINION.
Why is it so hard for others to accept someone elses opinion? I accept yours without being a dick to you, can you not return the common courtesy?

[Farm]

No, You haven't read them. Again, It's obvious to anyone who has.  You are making a fool of yourself.

[little_eiffel]

No, you are making a fool of yourself. Let me outline it for you"

1. The topic was (look closely and read carefully) "What do You believe".....see there? It is a topic asking what I believe.
2. You are trying to call me liar about reading the documents because I do not believe the same as you.
3. It shows you are very narrow minded and shallow, and for some reason you feel the need to attack me because I do not believe the same as you.

Ok, here, how about since you don't think I read the documents and I don't think they did it......how about you, with all your majestic knowledge and know all of the case prove to me that they did it with the documents?

What it comes down to is this: I gave my opinion as to what I believe. So either you prove to me I am wrong in believing what I do or just drop it..and leave me alone.

[Farm]

What it comes down to is you offered an opinion on a case you know nothing about.