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[Storm]

Honestly Dave, Its been what 14 years since these brutal murders. First, JMB was made out to be the guilty one. Anything he said, anything he ever did in his life was being used for the proof of his guilt. When nothing was done to JMB about being guilty, the "supporters" turned to Terry Hobbs. Now everything he did in life and has ever said is being scrutinized. And when this doesn't pan out for the "supporters" side, who's next?

[pagodajade]

Honestly Dave,

Not to sound retarded, but I can't find anything about Dave posting in this thread.  Did I miss it?  Storm, who are you talking to?

[Farm]

Neither do the individual peices of evidence agains the WM3 though.

The jurors who actually saw the evidence disagree with you.

As did the ASSC who reviewed it.

[Storm]

Honestly Dave,

Not to sound retarded, but I can't find anything about Dave posting in this thread.  Did I miss it?  Storm, who are you talking to?

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No you dont sound retarded lol I was the messing up. I dont know what I was thinking, I think I thought Dave had posted something, and I just started going off about all the bs of going after Terry Hobbs. I just dont think its right for the "supporters" to go after TH now that they have no one else to go after. Because they found a hair matching TH on another childs shoelace, it seems that is the end all be all of everything, and the supporters are going to town on this issue. I dont think it is right to sentence someone without a fair trial. Until there is more proof and TH is arrested and convicted, i dont think it is fair for anyone to be saying anything. JMB went through alot of crap when the supporters were saying he was guilty, and its wrong of him to be doing the same thing to someone else.

So Im sorry Dave for calling you out when you had nothing to do with this thread just me being rambunctious and talking crap. lol Sry.   

[pagodajade]

Oh, haha!  I think you were posting off Dogs comment, but thought it was Dave or something.  They both begin with a d so i dunno.  I was so confused though.  lol!   

[sheer]

Dog to Goddess:

You obviously have given this no thought.  The boys were tied similarly to how animals are tied at a slaughterhouse

Hmmmmmmmm. I've been on the boards for just over 3 1/2 years and I have never seen any supporter go on and on about the "slaughterhouse" theory. Did they not give it much thought? Come to think of it............I don't think I've seen you mention it either? If you have, link please!  Oh and I mean PRE-BYERS telling everyone what to think about Terry Hobbs.  Seems to me that Goddess was thinking for herself, whilst those that are NOW running about spewing the slaughterhouse theory are being manipulated by Mark Byers.

The majority of supporters who discussed the way the boys were tied (PRE- BYERS telling everyone what to think about Terry Hobbs) appeared to come to the conclusion that the bindings were tied as such to carry the boys. They used to think it was a dumpsite remember?


Anyways.....

Goddess:

i'm still scratching my head as to the meaning of this [Byers' invisable man] comment

The "invisable man" comment coming from Byers makes me laugh because he's implying that Hobbs has stayed out of the limelight, has hidden, has been invisable. He's turning the spotlight on him because Hobbs has NEVER been in the forefront. He's been quiet. From the moment the crime was publicised, Terry Hobbs has been in the background, on tv we see him mostly standing beside or behind Pam, we don't see him involving himself in the media frenzy. He avoids the limelight. (Let me point out that Todd and Dana Moore also stayed out of the limelight, just like Terry. So he's not unusual.)
He wasn't on film much, he wasn't interviewed much,  he simply wasn't the man described in Douglas' profile.

From the profile:

"He resents people but does not avoid social situations."

"He looks at social situations as an opportunity to manipulate and use others for his own personal gain."

"It is not uncommon for the organized type of offender to be overly cooperative post offense"

"The organized offender’s cooperativeness is for the purpose to deflect suspicions away from him as a suspect."


Now, that does sound like someone. ........... hmmmmmmmm.

That's not all. Keen observers will have noted Douglas' inclusion of Mark's punishment of Chris just before he states that this crime is a form of punishment gone too far.

"Investigative reports indicated the Byers victim was punished by a spanking from his step-father because he left home after school without permission."

<snip>

"The is a Personal Cause triple homicide perpetrated by someone whose initial intent was not to kill the victims, but rather to taunt, punish,and/or teach the victims “a lesson”. "


I think Douglas' profile is a pile of shite and I don't think Mark is a murderer. But then Douglas is only saying what supporters have been saying for years. 


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[Fwarm]

That gully is a real winner huh? I am really glad they get to keep people like that over there with the rest of the "oppressed" freaks. Is it possible for someone who knows almost absolutely nothing they are talking about to make up more bullshit? Also if asskissing was against the law gully would get the death penalty.

[Fwarm]

I think that bloodmoney video is pretty good of course it reinforces what I have already said or rather what we all have said. I think their outrage over the subject is also justified especially if they have given money to the WM3 Hoax.

People make the lame excuse "its not your money why do you care" well because scamming people is illegal and what's worse is making money off the blood of children there is no lower form of life on this planet.

[ED]

Did you notice ayearatthewheel that your posts over on the "supporter" board were removed. They do not allow any freedom of speech over there. Tells you everything about the WM3 org machine.

[ayearatthewheel]

Did you notice ayearatthewheel that your posts over on the "supporter" board were removed. They do not allow any freedom of speech over there. Tells you everything about the WM3 org machine.

yep.
it is suspect... almost cult-like.

and to let you all know, we went to the rally as supporters, not believers, but supporters that believe a new trial ain't such a bad idea... the famly-less rally was a huge red flag.

[Storm]

Thats one of the things that really makes me think, why are the supporters so quick to delete messages. they post over here with no problem of dissapearing threads. what are they trying to hide? If these guys are so for sure innocent, why censor people. And ya the fact the family of the WM3 weren't there, thats a little weird also. I know if my son was wrongly convicted of something, I would be at EVERY rally for him, I would be picketing outside the prison doors. Maybe the families arent so sure?

[Fwarm]

Well I ask the same questions Storm of why do they need to lie to try and defend Damien's lies from Larry King. Damien lied then they lied to defend him so we have layers of lies and I don't see how they keep up with all of it. This is just one event too just consider how many truths they have tried to bury over 10 years or so. Its amazing people can actually lie to themselves in that fashion to make these damning statements looks innocent and benign.

The only conclusion I can come to is that many of the supporters could careless about right or wrong guilt or innocence its far beyond such minimized issues for them its all about freeing the 3 and zealotry against the DP. They are 2 dimensional.

[Fwarm]

This YearAtTheWheel guys really pissed off Chase and a couple of other slime-balls on WM3DB. Chase really is a fucking scumbag just like Wolf.

Not to get all disgusting or anything but I think Badfish is the one that bends over so Chase can use the strap-on. Bad really doesn't have one single gram of self confidence she must kiss ass constantly.

Really is pathetic to think human beings can lower themselves to that level. But I digress from the point.

Here is what bad had to say which pretty much sums up anything she ever says which means generally incomplete sentences and parrot of whatever Strap-On Chase has to say.

The videos misrepresent.

These ppl are trying to start crap, and you shouldn't be hanging around the other boards anyway.

They are only good for one thing: Starting crap.

Ok, maybe 2 things.

I like to point and laugh sometimes!

OK umm the videos misrepresent what? Did Chase not tell her what else to say to complete the sentence? They misrepresent Bush? The United Nations, the Arkansas AG?

I didn't see anything these people videoed as "trying to start crap" they just documented what was there. The simple fact is this Supporter Defense fund has made over 1 million dollars yet DNA testing was maybe 50K to 100k. You do the math that is a hell of a lot of money I mean they made enough money to hire PR firms and pay off reporters at NY Times (which considering the NY Times that wouldn’t be expensive integrity is not real important to them).

She laughs at non forums? That is funny since she can't find it in herself to create a single completed sentence nor debate anyone on this case. She has tried to with penu but quickly gives up and runs away because she knows nothing but what she has been told.

Not to mention she told Velvet that he should not be hanging around the other boards anyway... Now that is true because he may get some truth at these boards that supporters wouldn't want that.

Now Chase stated as if she would know:

There was NOTHING wrong with t-shirt guy. I think you will find that the video that the "wheelies" have posted is HEAVILY edited to mislead.

So I will ask the YearAtTheWheel folks...

Did you edit your video to mislead and make the supporter fund raising appear in a bad light? I think you should have a chance to answer that.

Now of course this is coming from Chase who thinks the propaganda against Mark Byers in PL 2 was good documentary and that any lie will justify her crusade.

Don't worry about them seeing your answer AttheWheel folks, Badfish reads here all the time she can't stand it and must report back to her butch and so does Chase for that matter. They aren't fooling anyone.

[Rudder]

Did you edit your video

I loved the editing at the end of part 2. Sinofsky saying he hopes this all ends with the release of all three/cut to Byers, "Paradise Lost 3"/Sinofsky, "release of all three"/Byers, "Paradise Lost 3", lol, insinuating that S & B don't care about the wm3 as much as the pl3.

Maybe that's what pissed chase off.

edit: btw, did anyone notice in the first video that Lorri told everybody to visit w3.org? I guess it's not that important, I would just think that if this has been such a huge part of her life, she might remember that it's actually wm3, not w3.

[DogIsYourName]

Thats one of the things that really makes me think, why are the supporters so quick to delete messages. they post over here with no problem of dissapearing threads. what are they trying to hide? If these guys are so for sure innocent, why censor people. And ya the fact the family of the WM3 weren't there, thats a little weird also. I know if my son was wrongly convicted of something, I would be at EVERY rally for him, I would be picketing outside the prison doors. Maybe the families arent so sure?

I also think it's odd that none of them showed up.  In their defense -- it has been 14 years.  At some point you have to go on living your life.