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« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2009, 01:08:37 PM »

I don't see anything to back this up. You didn't even put where it came from.

nope....and I won't bother to post it either....because I'll go and look for it and find the link to the actual records on Callahan's ...and you'll have it right there in front of your face...(as you do now) ...and you'll still explain it away....or just outright choose not to believe it so I'm not wasting my time.

Like Kerrie just said.....go find it for yourself.  If you choose to be in the dark about it and just want to listen to what the media puts out there (which is what you came here to saying....he's a wiccan, he wore black, metallica, poor misunderstood misfit yadda yadda yadda) .....then that your problem.
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« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2009, 08:33:05 PM »

I don't see anything to back this up. You didn't even put where it came from.

Every single thing - word for word - is documented in Exhibit 500. 

Damien's defense presented it during the sentencing phase of his trial.  You can find it in the transcript.
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« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2009, 08:35:15 AM »

Fine. I can accept that he exhibited psychotic behavior. That he was admitted several times. That he was strange.
But honestly, I didn't see anything Satanic about the murders.
Brutal, definitely, but there is no evidence that the boys were sexually assaulted. And the "sexually mutilation," well, experts now are saying that it was not done by a person, but appears to be missing due to animal predation.

Psychotic or not, the evidence is still lacking. Every document in the world on this case is not going to provide the physical evidence to prove they did it.  Until that appears, you'd have to admit that it wasn't a fair trial.

And that Aleister Crowley expert that admitted he didn't take any classes pertaining to his "expertise" on trial? Are you kidding me? His testimony should be wiped from the record.
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« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2009, 08:46:52 AM »

"Psychotic or not, the evidence is still lacking. Every document in the world on this case is not going to provide the physical evidence to prove they did it.  Until that appears, you'd have to admit that it wasn't a fair trial."

Most murder cases are not based on physical evidence. It's mostly circumstantial which is just as good. Circumstantial evidence is not based on fantasy it's based on facts. There is also no physical evidence that states the three did not commit this crime either. The DNA was not even close. Just because their DNA hasn't matched the items tested so far, doesn't prove they were not there. Everything has not been tested so we may never know about this evidence. There is plenty of evidence against the three. Lies, no alibis, Damien being seen around the crime scene Jessie's multiple confessions a whole bunch of stuff that is posted throughout all the boards.
How wasn't it a fair trial?
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« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2009, 08:51:28 AM »

Fine. I can accept that he exhibited psychotic behavior. That he was admitted several times. That he was strange.
But honestly, I didn't see anything Satanic about the murders.
Brutal, definitely, but there is no evidence that the boys were sexually assaulted. And the "sexually mutilation," well, experts now are saying that it was not done by a person, but appears to be missing due to animal predation.

Psychotic or not, the evidence is still lacking. Every document in the world on this case is not going to provide the physical evidence to prove they did it.  Until that appears, you'd have to admit that it wasn't a fair trial.

And that Aleister Crowley expert that admitted he didn't take any classes pertaining to his "expertise" on trial? Are you kidding me? His testimony should be wiped from the record.

Again, you're only coming here talking about the same old tired story from the media and the defense team.  Everything that you have just mentioned has been discussed on this board (and other boards) millions of times.  If you take the time to read through some of the threads here you'll read about the so-called "animal predation."  The truth is all in the documentation at Callahan's....go and read it for yourself.

I feel so sorry for all the folks who've been around for a while.....to have to see this again, and again.  It's definetly worth it if you can help even one person figure out the truth but it's so frustrating because these people come here so ready to fight because they think they have the truth....and they've all been lied to.  :(
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« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2009, 01:27:12 PM »

There could be physcial evidence if the dumbass cops didn't lose some of it. We'll never know if that black man from the restaurant could have been involved.

Even John Mark Byers knows now that they didn't do it. What do you think changed his mind?
The media isn't lying about this. While they are supporters of the WM3, Devil's Knot by Mara Leveritt and the guys who did the Paradise Lost documentaries don't make these boys out to be some saints. They talk about all the reasons they could seem guilty and all the reasons they could be innocent. They don't even claim that they think the boys are innocent. All these are iare straight and unbiased research and presentation of the facts of the case.

It's not their fault JMB turned out to be a psycho redneck on camera.
If they wanted to make these guys look innocent, they wouldn't have included half the material they included.

Apologies for not reading every single thread on a board I disagree with. I don't have time for that. I only get on this thing on work on my breaks because you idiots get so worked up about all this and it's the only interesting part of my workday.
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« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2009, 01:28:47 PM »

There could be physcial evidence if the dumbass cops didn't lose some of it. We'll never know if that black man from the restaurant could have been involved.

Even John Mark Byers knows now that they didn't do it. What do you think changed his mind?
The media isn't lying about this. While they are supporters of the WM3, Devil's Knot by Mara Leveritt and the guys who did the Paradise Lost documentaries don't make these boys out to be some saints. They talk about all the reasons they could seem guilty and all the reasons they could be innocent. They don't even claim that they think the boys are innocent. All these are iare straight and unbiased research and presentation of the facts of the case.

It's not their fault JMB turned out to be a psycho redneck on camera.
If they wanted to make these guys look innocent, they wouldn't have included half the material they included.

Apologies for not reading every single thread on a board I disagree with. I don't have time for that. I only get on this thing on work on my breaks because you idiots get so worked up about all this and it's the only interesting part of my workday.
now was this necessary? ::)~
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« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2009, 01:31:33 PM »

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Necessary? Probably not.
True? Probably.
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« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2009, 01:37:48 PM »

So the name calling starts. Pathetic. Fuck off Cewatson. I have news for you little girl, JMB didn't change his mind. He's playing the supporters just to make lots of $$$$$$. You all are a bunch of fools.
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« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2009, 01:38:02 PM »

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you know what they say about people in glass whorehouses dontcha?~
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« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2009, 01:57:09 PM »

So the name calling starts. Pathetic. Fuck off Cewatson. I have news for you little girl, JMB didn't change his mind. He's playing the supporters just to make lots of $$$$$$. You all are a bunch of fools.
isn't it kerrie?~ 99% of the supporters i run across base everything they spew on the documentaries~ they come here asking questions & attacking nons~ time & time again, they are directed to the 500~ these people obviously have access to computers & the Internet & i assume most can read ::)~ tho i have come to the conclusion that they are either dim or lazy & that is it in a hand bag~ they don't want to go & read the facts as presented~ the 500 is the most unbiased site out there when it comes to the evidence~ & i for one am tired of continually pointing folks in that direction~ it doesn't change anything in their eyes, even seeing stuff about the WM3 in print w/ their own eyes, they still seem blind to the truth~ i just don't understand what it will take for it to get thru to these people~ i respect their opinions, but not when they resort to name calling & such when you point something out to a them~ makes them even look more remedial than 1st thought~

we get so worked up about it because we care & actually want to see justice carried out~ i am tired of the supporters acting as if damien in some sort of teen martyr, it is just disgusting~ he is an evil, disgusting child killer & was caught & convicted, if you don't like it, than too bad, it is what it is~ nothing will ever change that~
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« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2009, 03:45:09 PM »

So the name calling starts. Pathetic. Fuck off Cewatson. I have news for you little girl, JMB didn't change his mind. He's playing the supporters just to make lots of $$$$$$. You all are a bunch of fools.
Haha, seriously? Grow up you stupid hypocrite. Calling me a fool isn't name-calling? And only the ignorant have to use the offensive language to get their point across. And please don't call me little girl, I'm an adult. Doesn't sound like you are.
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« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2009, 03:52:20 PM »

Oh, and Goddess, why didn't you highlight the comment directly after that one. Because that wasn't childish or inappropriate one bit.  :-\
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« Reply #73 on: November 20, 2009, 06:11:24 PM »

Oh, and Goddess, why didn't you highlight the comment directly after that one. Because that wasn't childish or inappropriate one bit.  :-\
because i was directing my comment to you & not to kerrie, or couldn't you figure that out on your own?~
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« Reply #74 on: November 20, 2009, 07:18:53 PM »

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Haha, seriously? Grow up you stupid hypocrite. Calling me a fool isn't name-calling? And only the ignorant have to use the offensive language to get their point across. And please don't call me little girl, I'm an adult. Doesn't sound like you are

What you are is a fucking coward who won't post under the nik that we all know you by.

Why don't you try posting using your real nik and we can carry on and discuss the case rather than playing your self-absorbed, attention seeking games?

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