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[Krissy]

Sorry if this already has a thread and I've overlooked it. Do you believe him?

I thought he "appeared" fairly credible when he testified. A supporter told me that Michael only testified (or agreed to) after he heard that HBO was going to be filming the trial. Is that true?

Even still, it takes a lot of time and energy to make up a story and head to trial when you don't even know the person who you are testifying against that well. I don't believe Michael had some irrational grudge against Jason that would have provoked him to testify against him if Jason had not made the statement to Michael.

That's just my opinion, anyway. I could well be wrong.

[sheer]

Hi Krissy,

A supporter told me that Michael only testified (or agreed to) after he heard that HBO was going to be filming the trial. Is that true?

 

Supporters will say anything to discredit any witness that casts a negative light on Damien, Jason or Jessie. I suppose it's normal.

This is what Michael said

MICHAEL: We were sittin at home and Dad was watching TV and I was in my room listening to the radio and talking on the telephone and when I walked out there was some news on the West Memphis case.
BEALL: Okay.
MICHAEL: And I pointed out Baldwin and I said, "that's the guy that I was in jail with and then told him, I didn't expect all of this to happen".
BEALL: Okay. Right.
MICHAEL: And he said, "well you need to tell somebody about this and I wasn't too sure about doing it because I felt like it was all weird so...
BEALL: Right.
MICHAEL: So like a couple of weeks later, two or three weeks later, he was sitting there, we was watching TV together, and the family of the kids that were murdered came up on there and he said, well if you say something that's who you will be helping out, and I ask him who did we need to call.
BEALL: Okay. That is when you eventually ended up going to Mr. Brent Davis's office, who is the prosecuting attorney and tell him the story too, is that correct?
MICHAEL: Yeah.
BEALL: Okay. Has, ah, anyone offered yall any money to come forward with this story?
MICHAEL: No.
BEALL: Have we, meaning the State Police, or anyone else, have we offered you anything to come forward with this information?
MICHAEL: No.

Supporters will also attempt to discredit Carson by raising Danny Williams. Williams (Michael's counsellor) had previously inserted himself into the case by contacting Paul (the dude) Ford, (Jason's Lawyer). This not being enough for him he also wrote a letter to Jason Baldwin in which he said:

"Every word that he [Carson] said in Court was told to him by me."


In his statement to Brent Davies, Williams wasn't quite so certain as he appears in his letter to Jason:

Williams: (con't) believe was initiated um, we were talking about detention, and the kind of kids that were in detention, and uh, we got to talking about the West Memphis case, and I told Michael either that, I don't remember if I told him that this allegedly happened in this case or in a lot of satanic related killings that um, the scrotum or testicles are cut the victim, that blood is used in the significance, um that sometime they use the scrotum to drink blood from their victims and I don't remember, I think I remember something about um, the victims might have been allegedly their skin removed, um, other than that I'm not

Davis: Okay

Williams: Real sure

<snip>

Williams: I couldn't be sure of that we were talking about both together like you know, um, in my mind the statement was, was made or close statement I said something like, you know I don't know these kids are accused of it but, in a lot of cases or a scenario is this, or a scenario is that uh, but, as far as saying this happened in the West Memphis case I couldn't, I don't remember.


I believe Carson.

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[Krissy]

I found him to be very credible. It didn't make sense if he was making it up. It wasn't like he had a grudge against Jason to do something like that unless Jason actually had said those words to Michael.

From what is known of the case, does Michael's testimony hold up as far as the mutilation?

From what I've read, I haven't found anything that would contradict his testimony.

Thanks,
Krissy

[nats]

I also thought Carson was a credible witness.

BTW, the look on Jason's face when Carson testified (from PL1) was priceless.  :laugh:

[Storm]

do u mean the look, when Carson says something, and Jason kinda gets this real mad look on his face like he could kill him right there for saying that? LOL ya, that and the whole thing with Damien provoking the parents. Come On, what innocent person, during a time that was going to decide your life, would sit there and provoke the victims parents like that. That just pisses me off. And I did not think it was fair at ALL that Damien was sitting there, holding his baby boy, right in front of the victims parents. That was a slap in the face to the parents that just lost their children.

As far as I can see, PL 1 showed the real Damien. In PL2, his lawyers were able to tell him how to act, what to say, explain away the whole "memphis boogyman" comment.

[nats]

Yep, that was the look! Carson was going into some gory details, and the camera paned to Jason's reaction.
He looked like a rabbit caught in a headlight. A mixture of hate, fear and panic.

I had almost forgotten about that little scene with Damian and his baby. Your right, that must have made the victims
feel like shit (besides being utterly discusted!). I know it made ME sick just watching in on TV!!

Yeah, but the time the film makers had gotten to PL2, everyone knew how to act, and even try to use the film to their
advantage (in the ways you discribed). By this time, the film makers were convinced of innocence, so it was to be the
"free the WM3 because of this whitch hunt mis-carage of justice" and blame Mark Byers, see how WEIRD he is!! he
must have done it!! hell, there's the knife with Chris's blood on it!!!!, hell, there's the TEETH" show!!!!!!!!!

So technicly, PL2 was NOT even a documentry, in was a fucking EDITORIAL!!!!!!!!! 

[sheer]

For all the total idiots on Rugs' board that don't know who Danny Williams is (yet support the WM3) 



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[Storm]

Kinda shows they really do not look at the real evidence in the case.  LOL

[Barbarossa4122]

The jurors took notes during deliberations. The witnesses were ranked in terms of significance and pros and cons were written for each. Summary lists of the pros and cons were composed for the defendants.  The list for Jason Baldwin is presented below.
P[ros]
In school
Stuck to story
Exibited remorse
C[ons]
Damien Best Fried (check mark)
Jailhouse confession
Low self esteem
Fiber Match
Knife
(two lines blotted out) (arrows) No Discard
Frequented Crime Scene
    Juror number seven composed his own list. No pros were included. The cons from above list appeared in the same order. Here, instead of two lines being blotted out, it explicitly stated that Jessie Misskelley's statement was considered. 
P[ros]
(none)
C[ons]
Damien's friend
Jailhouse conf.
Low self esteem
Fiber (DNA)
Knife recovered behind house
J. Misk State
Satanic follower
Freq. crime scene
     The juror's notes will be considered in light of the evidence. 

Jury summary notes of the pros and cons of Michael Carson.

[Mary7875]

Michael Carson also passed a polygraph administered by the State Police (not the WMPD).

[Barbarossa4122]

He did? Missed that.

[TJM]

Here it is Barbarossa:


http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/img/mcpoly.html

[Barbarossa4122]

He did. Thank you.