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« on: June 16, 2011, 11:09:01 PM »

Please correct me if I am wrong. I was looking at the trial transcripts and am unable to find Vicky Hutcheson testifying at the Echols Baldwin Trial.

I keep hearing how Echols was convicited on false information from Vicky Hutcheson but I can only find where she testified during the MissKelleys trial.

 Can someone link me to the Hutcheson testimony in the Echols trial? Or confirm that Hutcheson did not testify at Echols trial?
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 01:01:41 AM »

She never testified at Damien's trial.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 01:32:48 PM »

She never testified at Damien's trial.

Then why the heck is her testimony brought up regarding Damiens guilt?
The trial testimony was among the first things I ever read on Callahans. I gathered most of my knowledge from documents after reading the trial transcripts and had forgotten that Hutcheson was only involved in the Misskelley trial. In fact after rereading her testimony Hutcheson really did not even give any incriminating evidence towards Misskelley. The most incriminating thing was calling the meeting "she claimed to attend" an Esbat. It is obvious that Hutcheson is a liar. I just cannot conclude that her perjured testimony or later claims are grounds for a retrial. What inculpability is derived from saying she went to a meeting, saw people get undressed and she left? People are mixing her statements with her actual testimony. And how does this in any way affect Echols and Baldwins verdicts?
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2011, 01:08:33 PM »

how does this in any way effect Echols and Baldwins verdicts?

It doesn't.

It's just typical supporter bullshit.
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2011, 05:07:56 PM »

how does this in any way effect Echols and Baldwins verdicts?

It doesn't.

Agreed.

We know it effected the investigation to some extent given the taping of Echols by Vickie and all. But anyone saying she effected the E/B trial in any way is wrong, IMO.

eta: Man, effected vs affected is one of the harder ones. Did I get it right? LOL.
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2011, 07:13:39 PM »

It's "affected" here lol.

I used to have a really hard time with effect and affect until someone gave me a hint.

The word "the" ends in e. If the word you are looking for can follow thE, then it's Effected. As in thE Effects.

Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun and so can follow "the."

Hope I explained that right and didn't mess you up more. Once I learned that trick, I got the words down pat.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2011, 01:13:38 AM »

how does this in any way effect Echols and Baldwins verdicts?

It doesn't.

Agreed.

We know it effected the investigation to some extent given the taping of Echols by Vickie and all. But anyone saying she effected the E/B trial in any way is wrong, IMO.

eta: Man, effected vs affected is one of the harder ones. Did I get it right? LOL.
Im about 50 % on effect/affect. This time I was wrong. now edited.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2011, 12:01:33 PM »

It's "affected" here lol.

I used to have a really hard time with effect and affect until someone gave me a hint.

The word "the" ends in e. If the word you are looking for can follow thE, then it's Effected. As in thE Effects.

Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun and so can follow "the."

Hope I explained that right and didn't mess you up more. Once I learned that trick, I got the words down pat.

That does help, thanks. I can usually figure it out, but it was really confusing me yesterday. Obviously I am dumber than usual when very drunk. LOL.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2011, 04:54:22 PM »

"affect" and "effect" can both be verbs. Some decent guides:

http://www.writersblock.ca/tips/monthtip/tipsep99a.htm

http://www.educationbug.org/a/affect-vs--effect.html
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2011, 06:16:10 PM »

"affect" and "effect" can both be verbs. Some decent guides:

http://www.writersblock.ca/tips/monthtip/tipsep99a.htm

http://www.educationbug.org/a/affect-vs--effect.html


You're right. I should have said usually.

99% of the time, I've found that my "thE" trick works though.
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 12:06:48 PM »

Anyway if she testifies at the hearing she will persure herself, and will probably get time in prison.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 04:22:42 PM »

Is it possible she could be called even though she doesn't want to testify? I agree she won't if she has a choice, or she'd have done it at J&J's Rule 37 hearing. I'm just wondering what the rules are, especially given it's an evidentiary hearing. /me scratches head
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2011, 06:14:38 PM »

I just saw an episode on Law and Order...

Murder by Perjury
Basically the testimony given by a witness caused the jury to convict a man to death and he was executed, later this same witness (who was an attorney) was found out that he had commitd perjury and they called some of the jurors and asked them if the witness had not perjured himself would they have convicted, (and it only took one juror) and they said no, so they indited the witness and charged him with murder...

I know its Hollywood, but I wonder if there has ever been a case like that....

I know the 3 are guilty, however I wonder what Vicky would think about the implications of perjuring herself...we know it carries a stiff penalty (20years I believe).  So the question is, if it was all lies as she has now said, she faces at least that, and if for some strange (Never gonna happen) reason Damien is executed and later is found innocent, could she be tried for Murder....


Man have I got to much free time today...

I think I will go watch Transformers 2
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