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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2010, 11:18:16 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2011, 08:11:11 PM »

Hi all.  Just some comments and questions on the 500. Thanks Sheer for posting.
At 027 - the "poem by Damien" is from a song by the band Slayer.
On 1/25/93 entry says "He typically drinks the blood of a sexual partner or RULING partner" - wtf is a ruling partner?
There are several entries that refer to a strange noise he makes and that he appears to be "sniffing the air".  It kinda made me think of the Hannibal Lecter character in Silence of the Lambs" What do u think?
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« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2011, 08:53:21 PM »


There are several entries that refer to a strange noise he makes and that he appears to be "sniffing the air".  It kinda made me think of the Hannibal Lecter character in Silence of the Lambs" What do u think?

I think he was craving liver (hold the onions) with a side of fava beans  ::)

Damien's counselor also noted that he was shifting his eyes about, as if responding to outside stimulation.  In other words, he was smelling/hearing/seeing things that weren't there.

Psychosis.

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« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2011, 01:24:14 AM »

 Don't forget the chianti!  I wonder if that's what Echol's was thinking when he threatened to eat his father. 

He copied dark and threatening lyrics from bands. I think he may also have copied dark and threatening behaviour from films.  That "purring" and "sniffing" - it sounded familiar.  Then I remembered Silence of the Lambs.  Too weird.  He was (is?) undoubtedly psychotic.  And strangely unoriginal. 

Anyone with doubts about Echol's guilt should read the 500. 
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« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2011, 10:18:32 AM »

Sheer, thanks SO MUCH for this index.  Bookmarked!
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« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2011, 06:47:46 PM »

Don't forget the chianti!
 

For sure, Kalie.  A nice Chianti. 


Anyone with doubts about Echol's guilt should read the 500.

Awww, it was just a little teenage angst.  Echols said so  ::)

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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2011, 04:51:26 PM »

Sheer's index to the first half of the Exh 500 was tremendously helpful. Here's my index to the rest.

186-189 Admission Psychiatric Evaluation 6/2/92 - CHoLR
-suicidal ideation, "history of extreme physical aggression toward others"
-"Supposedly, Damien chased a younger child with an ax and attempted to set a house on fire. He denies this behavior."

190-191 History and Physical - CHoLR 6/2/92

192-198 Psychological Report 6/8/92 by Lewis Bracy

199-209 MMPI report 6/92

210-217 MAPI report 6/92
"characterized by impulsive hostility, an apprehensive mistrust of others and an edgy defensiveness against criticism. Fearing that others will dominate and possibly brutalize him, he puts forward a socially blunt and aggressive public posture. He fantasizes being all powerful so as to block others from possessing the means to be belittling and harmful. He believes that only alert vigilance and vigorous counter=action can prevent the malice of others. ... The desire to gain power and demean others springs from animosity and a wish to vindicate past grievances. Although frequently unsuccessful in these aims, this teenager believes that past degradations may be undone by provoking fear and intimidation in others."

218-229 Nursing Assessment 6/1/92

230-231 Adolescent Developmental History - CHoLR

232-238 Psychological Assessment - CHoLR 6/2/92
- "I have no feelings about suicide. I know that I can be reincarnated. I'm not afraid."
- burning himself with lighters
- Damien set fire to classroom twice; threatened to put "hexes" on teachers
- Sniffing air, cutting eyes, possibly responding to hallucinations
- During arrest, "Damien states that he was able to work his fingers loose, moved over and was able to slip the safety off of the police officer's gun which had been left in the police vehicle. Damien freely admitted that he had plans to shoot the girlfriend's father if he acted in an aggressive manner toward the girl."

239-240 Family questionnaire - CHoLR - Pam Echols

241-256 CHoLR forms

257-275 Treatment plan 6/92
- Trying to suck blood off peers who have scratched themselves.
- flat affect, sullen, withdrawn
- possibley responding to hallucinations

276-277 Nursing Discharge - CHoLR 6/25/92

278-288 Physician's Progress Notes (daily notes) 6/92
"his affect is inappropriate. He has trouble making eye contact. He is quite paranoid. He has been drawing symbols."

289-309 Physician's Progress Notes (diff handwriting) 6/92
- believes surveillance cameras behind his mirror and under his desk in his room, cautioned peers that staff are constantly watching them.
- Flat, monotone, glassy look. Continues to look away, may be responding to voices heard within.
- drawing witchcraft symbols, making cat purr noise
- Pam Echols concerned about son "not learning to deal w anger and rages", worried her son responding to outside stimulation. Voiced fear "son may be crazy."
- extremely flat affect mentioned repeatedly

310-312 Physician's Orders CHoLR

313-318 Routine Medication CHoLR

319-320 Therapeutic Leave notes CHoLR 6/19-21/92

321-339 CHoLR forms

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June CHoLR stay done // Sep stay begins
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340 Inquisitor Inc cover sheet

341-342 TRIMS Hospital Form 9/10/92
-Presenting problems: "Homicidal" and "Psychoses" checked off
-Notes: "??ed him down to the ground, sucked the blood from the arm, rubbed it over his face and body, and say he is a blood sucking vampire."
- "past 72 hours { says he is going to eat father and that he needs to be locked up or he will hurt someone. Also grabbed another person and tried to suck their blood.
- Jerry Driver listed as Referral

343 Info form

344 AK Dept of Human Services - Medicaid
-blood sucking & smearing, threatening to eat father

345 Adjudication Order - 9/14/92
- violation of probation by threatening the life of his mother and father and refusing to obey their lawful commands

346-348 Change in Custody Order 9/14/92
Damien custody transferred to Patricia Ann Liggett (aunt)

349-356 Admission forms for CHoLR 9/14/92

357-367 Assessment CHoLR 9/16/92
"Presently in detention in Jonesboro, picked up for violation of probation, threatened to slit parents' throat and eat them alive. Transferred to Crittenden, one of the kids at the detention hall cut his wrists, Damien grabbed his arm and began to the suck the blood, smeared it over his body and said he's a devil worshipping vampire. Says he's not a vampire but a witch. He is in isolation and suicide watch."
-Delusions: says he's going to be married in 3 days but doesn't know who he will
-Violence in family: was staying w Mom & Dad in Oregon; Dad threatened to hit him & he threatened to kill dad
-Inpatient history - St. Vincent Hospital in Oregon weekend of Aug 12, early Sept
-sexual history
-more on threats to slash both parents throats, eat them alive
-runaway incident: threats to kill officer, threat to kill gf dad
-"could be a danger to others"

368-371 Psych Eval 9/15/92

372-373 History and Physical 9/14/92

374-75 Psychosocial Assessment Update 9/15/92
- white witch, devil worshipping
- threats to kill police officer and girlfriend's father
- "Damien's behavoirs have become frightening to some of the community members in the Jonesboro area."
- in Oregon "at several times had threatened to kill his father"; "Damien returned to the home and made advances on the father. The father felt threatened and was concerned for his welfare as well as his wife's and other child in the home. Damien was moved to the detention center in the Oregon area. While in the detention center, Damien witnessed a co-patient slashing his wrist. Damien is reported to have knocked the co-patient to the ground and began to suck the young man's blood."
-"Damien has made several statements indicating that he has a desire to harm others. Primary targets of his aggression to include authority figures."
- During this assessment, Damien "readily answered questions concerning his religious beliefs and the fact that he believes that he is a vampire and does worship the devil. It was the social worker's opinion that Damien was not disclosing information for the purposes of schock, that he was simply disclosing what he currently is believing. ... However, his behaviors could best be described as odd and bizzare. Damien smiled at inappropriate times. He cut his eyes back and forth as if he was responding to external stimulation. He seemed to be giggling at something that he was saying or a private joke that was unknown to this social worker."

377-383 reprint of June assessment

384-402 medical, nutrition, educational, etc
-growling noises to scare the other students
-Objective = "patient will be able to distinguish reality as demonstrated by ability to appropriately respond to environment stimuli"

403-416 Treatment plan 9/92 various forms
412: "could be danger to others"

417-424 Physician's Progress Notes (9/15-9/28)

425-436 Progress Notes (9/15-9/28)
- stated he had attempted suicide before and 'was not worried about trying again because I know I can come back."
- peers complaining of Damien making growling sounds at them
- continuing to make bizarre sounds around peers; continuous talk of Satanism to peers
- continues laughing strangely and getting peers to feed into his satanism
-lots more references to flat affect, withdrawn, daydreaming & staring off

437 Physicians Orders
- "Axis I Psychotic Disorder NOS" ["Not Otherwise Specified"]

440-444 Routine Medication
- all five pages list "Diagnosis: Psychotic Disorder"

445-455 various CHoLR 9/92 forms
453: staff goodbye notes - "Let people like you for you!"

456-461 Discharge forms 9/28/92
457 blood sucking
During stay: "He did bite a male peer; however, this was in a fight type manner."
457-58 "At the time of discharge, it was felt that Damien's behavior had stabilized to the point to where he no longer needed to remain in an acute care setting. He was not considered a danger to others at the time of his discharge. ... Damien has contracted that he will not attempt to harm anyone after the time of discharge."

462-463 Inquisitor Inc forms

464 Craighead County Juvenile Detention Center report by Joyce Cureton
regarding Damien grabbing boy's arm and sucking blood. "The boys all stated he had been saying he had not taken his medication the night before, and he was about to 'go off on them'."He also told staff he had threatened to kill his father and eat him.

465 memorandum on home study

466-470 Intake Summary 8/17/92 Oregon
467: Jerry Driver's belief that "Damien and several others of his associates are involved in a satanic cult. / Damien and his girlfriend were planning to have a child, so that they could offer it as a sacrifice to Satan. / The authorities in Arkansas suspect that Damien's parents are involved in this satanic belief system."
469: "Damien denies any involvement in satanic cult or beliefs in Satanism. He expressed considerable displaeaure with Mr. Driver in making such assertions. Damien did acknowledge a suicide pact that he and his girlfriend has made"

471 Juvenile Compact Form (Oregon 8/13/92)

472 Referral Communicatin Log 9/14/92
Jerry Driver gives name of someone at Oregon hospital for consult

473-483 forms, info releases

484-85 Notebook pages, drawing and poems

486-487 personal written statement

488-493 questionaires from hospital w handwritten responses
-long term goal: "to own a new age shop"
-people i'd like to meet: Anton Levay, Stephen King

494-498 drawings, poems, stories

499-500 CHoLR questionaire 6/92

501-507 info requests, release forms

508-509 legal paperwork

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« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2011, 07:50:58 PM »

So what? It's typical teenage angst. Jerry Driver probably told all of that to the doctors, it's just rumors spread by a town filled with satanic panic! Damien's own father said he hugged a kitten once, therefore he could not have been a serial killer in the making! Who knew him better than his own family after all. I taught teenagers for many years and it's totally typical for a teenager who feels persecuted because of his low economic status and alienation due to his type of music and clothing to lash out and chase children with axes!  Plus he's so mature and articulate, so he couldn't have killed those kids! Terry Hobbs, on the other hand, used to work in a slaughter house and knew how to tie knots, did you know that? All that stuff in the 500 was made up so that the hospital could rake in millions from Medicaid cause they pay huge hospital bills in full when probation officers make up lies. And Jessie was mentally challenged and you are all prejudiced against Jason cause he had a mullet!

You guys are no better than "tHE perp" with your rumor spreading!

(I started off as Ruda, then went to Compassionate Reader, and threw in a little Paid in there, sorry I couldn't stick to one personality. Hope I'm not a schizo.)
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« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2011, 08:31:15 PM »

Well acted val! I'm lmfao you have them down pat! I was rolling when I saw your post. Teenage angst my ass!  Last time I checked lighting fires and animal torture as a kid are both signs of a future murderer/serial killer. Why do those dumbass fuckin supporters refuse to see what's right in front of their face?! It infuriates me! Fuck the west memphis three!
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« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2011, 11:08:26 PM »

DavidK. You, Sheer and Mary did really good work with the 500.  It is very helpful to have it in that form.  Ex. 500 and letters to Gloria Shettles show what a deranged homicidal fuck Echols was/is.  btw I think the word in 361 is "knocked".

Val.  I'm still lmfao.
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« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2011, 03:51:19 AM »

David,

On your site here:

http://wm3truth.com/2011/06/comment-about-jessie-misskelleys-21794-confession/


You link to Dave's analysis of Jessie's confessions.

Dave didn't write the analysis of Jessie's confessions, Boo did. He appropriated it as his own because he added a few tiny bits. It was no joint effort. As I kept telling him at the time. He's simply a glory wannabe.


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« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2011, 05:03:59 AM »

David,

On your site here:

http://wm3truth.com/2011/06/comment-about-jessie-misskelleys-21794-confession/


You link to Dave's analysis of Jessie's confessions.

Dave didn't write the analysis of Jessie's confessions, Boo did. He appropriated it as his own because he added a few tiny bits. It was no joint effort. As I kept telling him at the time. He's simply a glory wannabe.


sheer



Thank you Davidk for linking the Hoax and acknowledging the help you received here O0
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« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2011, 11:48:48 AM »

So what? It's typical teenage angst. Jerry Driver probably told all of that to the doctors, it's just rumors spread by a town filled with satanic panic! Damien's own father said he hugged a kitten once, therefore he could not have been a serial killer in the making! Who knew him better than his own family after all. I taught teenagers for many years and it's totally typical for a teenager who feels persecuted because of his low economic status and alienation due to his type of music and clothing to lash out and chase children with axes!  Plus he's so mature and articulate, so he couldn't have killed those kids! Terry Hobbs, on the other hand, used to work in a slaughter house and knew how to tie knots, did you know that? All that stuff in the 500 was made up so that the hospital could rake in millions from Medicaid cause they pay huge hospital bills in full when probation officers make up lies. And Jessie was mentally challenged and you are all prejudiced against Jason cause he had a mullet!

You guys are no better than "tHE perp" with your rumor spreading!

(I started off as Ruda, then went to Compassionate Reader, and threw in a little Paid in there, sorry I couldn't stick to one personality. Hope I'm not a schizo.)

That was brilliant Val!
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« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2011, 03:49:53 PM »

Flex,

What has my post got to do with thanking Dave for linking to this site? Why did you quote me?

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« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2011, 06:24:54 PM »

Um Stupidity on my part?

I know I guessed right O0
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