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[hoopylass]

sorry if this is old news but:

does anyone know of the records of police checking telephone records?

ie. i don't know about the US but in my country it would be standard procedure to immediately obtain call records - jessie said that jason called him both in the morning and in the evening - but i have never seen any phone records printed anywhere.
the same with the echols family claims that he was on the phone all evening.

surely it would be a very easy method of proving/disproving peoples statements? but yet i haven't seen these records printed anywhere or mentioned in the trial transcripts. where are they? can anyone provide a link please?

[BlackAngel]

I don't believe there were any records, technology has made a big leap since then.

And if I am not mistaken if it was a local call they didn't show up or could not trace them.

Jan

[Fwarm]

Defense didn't pull the call logs and there may have been logs for Damien... or they did and didn't find anything to help Damien only prove he lied about his alibi.

Yes they were able to keep logs then

[DogIsYourName]

I remember that the prosecution said there were no logs.  The defense took their word for it and did not check into it.  But when it was checked into a few years later, the phone company said they had just thrown those records away.

Of course, I don't remember the exact source of this information... Sorry about that.

[Icky Twerp]

That's how I remember reading it as well. I found it odd that the defense would just take the prosecution's word for it given that the alibi depended on phone calls. I also figured the prosecution would use it to blow the alibi to pieces if call logs were available not to mention the phone call to Misskelly.

[Fwarm]

The burden is on Defense using prosecution of an excuse is well no excuse at all.

[Icky Twerp]

I agree, the defense saying, "But the prosecution told us...." doesn't hold much water. Would the defense be honor bound to admit if they checked the phone records and found that things didn't jive with the story?

[ethoma1]

Well, any evidence that either side finds has to go to both parties. If the prosecutor found phone logs, they were required by law to give them to the defense. The defense must have assumed the prosecutor obeyed the law.

[TexKen]

Guilty? Innocent? Prosecutor? Defense? Supporter? Non? It really doesn’t matter. What matters is justice. Justice for three lost souls. Justice for all of those left behind. Justice for those convicted, jailed and sentenced to die. Justice for all of us who still care about fairness and all of the wonderful things our constitution guarantee’s us.

A most heinous crime was committed and resulted in the death of three 8-year olds. The State/County/Local Law (Our Justice System) has an obligation to those three boys and their families. Investigate the crime, determine the facts and bring the guilty party(s) to Justice. When our Justice System seeks/levies the punishment of death, there should be no stone unturned. There should be no question of guilt. We as society should hold our system to the highest of standards to insure we do not kill an innocent person. To insure to those who were wronged that we as a society will not stop until Justice is served.
 
There is absolutely no reason the WMPD should not have obtained those phone records. Didn’t need them, they won their case. “BULLSHIT!” There is absolutely no reason the defense should not have obtained those phone records. They said they were not available, or whatever. “BULLSHIT!” I’m sorry folks, the three eight year olds lost, their families lost, the WM3 lost, the town of West Memphis lost, the state of Arkansas lost, hell WE ALL LOST. Justice is not about winning or losing a case.

Before I am categorized as a supporter or non-supporter I want to be clear, I am both and neither. I am an American citizen who is just looking for Justice for three eight year olds. I have read both sides of this tragedy and the only thing I am positive of is that 3 little boys were killed, their families traumatized, three teenagers were tried and convicted and after 15 years we are still rehashing this over and over again. I could not even begin to imagine what the parents of the little boys went and are going through. To each and everyone of them my deepest condolences and prayers.
 
Sadly, the lack of phone records is but one more failure in this dismal excuse of Justice. I am writing this today because the WMPD did not do the job they were paid to do almost fifteen years ago. They took the job of their own free will, to uphold our Justice system and protect its citizens. They failed the children, they failed the teens and they failed all of us. I would not be here today had the WMPD done a more thorough and complete job, In My Worthless Opinion.

TexKen

[Farm]

There is absolutely no reason the WMPD should not have obtained those phone records.

For what?

Echols admitted he wasn't home once his alibi denied having spoken to him.

You should really read the testimony before hurling accusations of incompetence.

[Fwarm]

All his other lies came out also.

Justice? I tend to cringe when a poster starts banging the justice drum.

[TexKen]

For What? Come on Mr. Farm, for Justice.

They should have obtained those phone records for all three of the teens. They could have coroborated Jessies statements about the phone calls from Jason. They could have quashed alot of questions being thrown around today.

If not for any other reason, but to save us from this nightmare today. I have read the testimony, I have read everything I could get my hands on through callahans, here, the brownboard and a few other boards lately.

Sorry, I do tend to hurl, not just accusations of incompetence but this whole case makes me sick to my stomach.

TexKen

[Fwarm]

Have you stopped to think that perhaps they didn't exist when the DA checked just like they stated? Or that since the accusation Dog makes without actually backing or reference didn't happen?

No they wouldn't have changed much of anything going around today. Because it was years after the trials that the WM3 became "Innocent". Not until PL2 did we have a flood of "they are innocent where do I send my money" crowds. That was the purpose of the film and people ate it all up.

[Farm]

For What? Come on Mr. Farm, for Justice.

Justice was done.

They could have coroborated Jessies statements about the phone calls from Jason.

It was a local call, there was no log for them.

If not for any other reason, but to save us from this nightmare today.

I sleep fine.

I have read the testimony

Yes, of course you have.

Why don't you give us just one example of a Defense argument which wasn't shredded in the courtroom.

[TexKen]

I put no stock in the PL films. I do agree with you that they did drum up alot of attention to the case. Some good, some bad, some stupid some sad. (That is my Dr. Suess of the day, sorry)

It is sad that some will watch those and form their opinion based on the films. I am ashamed to admit, that my attention to case came from my utter destain of natlie maines and her idiodic polical views. "What is that stupid twit up to now" was the thought in my head when I drilled down on the foxnews website report. DAMN THAT TWIT!!!! It was then this nightmare began for me.

Why would you cringe at the wonderful beat of the Justice Drum?

TexKen