Why Mark Byers (and other former nons) became supporters / Why Hobbs is guilty

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[sheer]

We got that squared away.

I must say that I think Gary has totally refuted my post above with his posts over this.


sheer

[iluvmua]

Hobbs guilty? I doubt it.

Need more evidence than just a hair from Hobbs or his friend.

[bcampy]

I have been studying this case since Sept.2010, and know just about all the facts so far. While it appears that TH may be the perp, due to the 2007 DNA, timeline discrepancies, strange behaviors (washing the clothes, etc.), I still can't figure out why the JJD alibis fell apart, and further, why it seems fairly clear that all three teens (JJD) made confessions at multiple times, to different people (ie., cops / juv. detention roomate / friends at the Girl's Ball Field). Maybe I can see Damien making a 'joke' around the kids, since he was spaced out at 18, and Jessie under coersion, but why would Jason talk to the Carson kid? Carson seems like a credible witness, so why would he lie about Jason confessing to him?  It seems odd that ALL 3 teens would ever mention their guilt to anyone, if they were totally innocent........Any comments? Help me out here, please!     

[ramglobal]

I have been studying this case since Sept.2010, and know just about all the facts so far. While it appears that TH may be the perp, due to the 2007 DNA, timeline discrepancies, strange behaviors (washing the clothes, etc.), I still can't figure out why the JJD alibis fell apart, and further, why it seems fairly clear that all three teens (JJD) made confessions at multiple times, to different people (ie., cops / juv. detention roomate / friends at the Girl's Ball Field). Maybe I can see Damien making a 'joke' around the kids, since he was spaced out at 18, and Jessie under coersion, but why would Jason talk to the Carson kid? Carson seems like a credible witness, so why would he lie about Jason confessing to him?  It seems odd that ALL 3 teens would ever mention their guilt to anyone, if they were totally innocent........Any comments? Help me out here, please!   

Really?

[flexj]

Terry Hobbs not your man

Hi Bcamp,

Let's consider the so called washing "everything" as it has been claimed

The number of loads and the time to do it could not work out given the fact we have a time line for Terry that contradicts it. 

Also the time lines that the supporters present can be refuted. His window of opportunity just isn't there

The stories/claims come from a select group of supporters who at one time used the very same methodology against another parent, JMB.

Divorce's are ugly, and this was a bad one. There were things said just to make Terry look bad and go thru hell

But the truth is, Terry and his x in laws still communicate and visit time to time

The DNA can easily be excused as secondary transfer.

[mikespadre]

having known all of these people for 18+ years the "clothes washing theory" is complete and total BS made up by pam's sister.... funny how it was never mentioned all those years ago and not until the marriage was over.... This is complete made up BS.

Like Flexj I too know Terry and even more so I knew him then as well as Pam.

If you have truly been studying this since 2010 then maybe you need to do much more studying because you dont have a clue.

[Ruda]

Yeah, three teenagers could kill three children and not leave behind one shred of evidence....not a hair...despite the fact they all had long hair, no blood in their homes, and no shoe prints.  Everyone on this board keeps stating the three were and are so stupid.  If that is so why did they not leave any evidence at all??  Even the most clever career criminals leave behind some trace of evidence!  The three teenagers convicted could not have done this crime without leaving at least one hair behind!  They had very long hair!  Oh...but only Terry Hobbs' hair and Jacoby's hair is found at the scene.  Hmmmm. Interesting. 

[Farm]

Yeah, three teenagers could kill three children and not leave behind one shred of evidence....not a hair...despite the fact they all had long hair

It's almost as if you were somehow led to believe that all the hair was tested.

If that is so why did they not leave any evidence at all??

You mean like fibers from their homes... things like that?

Everyone on this board keeps stating the three were and are so stupid.

Wow, you really ARE "confused", aren't you?

Even the most clever career criminals leave behind some trace of evidence!

So where is it?

Oh...but only Terry Hobbs' hair and Jacoby's hair is found at the scene.  Hmmmm. Interesting. 

That's odd?

Even the Defense's DNA expert said there was no way he could say those hairs came from Hobbs or Jacoby.

Hmmmm. Interesting indeed.

It's almost as if you "embellished" a few "facts" here to try and prop up your incredibly misinformed opinion.

[onthefence]

Yeah, three teenagers could kill three children and not leave behind one shred of evidence....not a hair...despite the fact they all had long hair

It's almost as if you were somehow led to believe that all the hair was tested.

Farm,  I rewatched PL1, and when the familes were being told about Jessie more than likely not testifying, they went over the evidence they did have.  They sounded like they had pretty good evidence, but didnt sound 100% . so my question would be, why didnt they test all the hairs and fibers, etc that was collected?  I think had they done that and found it to be of the wm3 that would all but sealed their fate.  after the fact obviously the evience they had got them convited , I just think why not get as much evidence as possbile. then maybe no possibility of a new trial.

[Farm]

why didnt they test all the hairs and fibers, etc that was collected?

Test it how?

[mikespadre]

Im gonna keep this simple...Ruda, go fuck yourself!

You are an idiot and why should anyone even bother with you, 17yrs. later and that is what you post?

why bother...

[ramglobal]

Ruda is a fucking idiot.

[CarolinaMom]

Me thinks Ruda watches too much tv.

[Patricia]

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FismongerDave:
Why Mark Byers (and other former nons) became supporters / Why Hobbs is guiltyNothing in your list of reasons contains evidence of guilt there is nothing in there.
If you would convict a man on the basis of your list, if you can-not see that there is more evidence against the convicts than your list condemning Terry Hobbs then you are an empty headed fool with no brain.
And you Ruda fit in well with your fellow supporters, like a parrot learning lines to repeat over and over with no understanding of what you are actually saying.
Its an amazing process to watch you do it over and over and over......  lol

[BlackAngel]

Ram

Ruda is a fucking idiot.

I agree 100 per cent.