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« on: February 25, 2010, 07:13:22 PM » |
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Apologies if this is already posted somewhere, I can't find it if it is: I am wondering when Echols gets the needle? Supporters are saying he now has a shot at appeals at Federal level. When does time really run out for him?
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2010, 07:17:33 AM » |
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Supporters are saying he now has a shot at appeals at Federal level.
I am willing to wager that Echol's federal habeas corpus claim will be denied without a hearing, just as his state claim was.
It fails on any number of levels.
First off, it hinges on the DNA results - which since they have now been presented in State court - are no longer new evidence.
Second, even if the fed considers the results, there is absolutely no reason to rule any differently than the Circuit court did - they don't exclude the convicts nor implicate anyone else, it's just as simple as that.
Third, Riordan knew they were worthless, and only used them to try and support a "schluo/House" claim in order to slip in other evidence for the federal court to reconsider, and Burnett explained why this was a failure as well as anyone should ever have to.
If Echols avoids the needle, it won't be through his federal HC claim.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2010, 08:15:11 AM » |
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Oh, mention "Schlou" lol and Dave will come running... surely
Chiggs?
Didn't you forget to answer Schlup/House? You did, you silly Benny pipe walker...
And you WONDER Dave why people don't take you seriously. lol
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2010, 10:27:26 AM » |
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Oh, mention "Schlou" lol and Dave will come running... surely
And Alex. Didn't he and Farm have quite a go-round about Schlup/House, Kimbo? Farm won hands down. TKO. |
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2010, 01:51:17 PM » |
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It's kinda funny when you think about it.
The Defense themselves said six years ago that there was no way the DNA test results could exclude the convicts, and what do supporters say to that?
"What do they know?"
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2010, 02:21:08 PM » |
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I was wondering can Damien still be executed without going to the Federal level or is there some kind of law that states this has to happen first before the death warrant is signed?
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2010, 02:32:34 PM » |
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They have to rule on his HC filing, but there certainly doesn't have to be a hearing and I can't see any reason why there would be.
The overwhelming majority of Federal HC claims are dismissed without hearings, and Echol's is about as worthless as an HC claim can be.
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2010, 02:43:16 PM » |
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Thanks I was wondering because there are 3 scheduled executions coming up in Arkansas. One for March, April and May and one of the guys has been on death row shorter than Damien has been
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 02:49:37 PM » |
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Where it stands now, The ASSC has to rule on Echol's challenge to Burnett's DNA ruling.
Then Riordan has to ammend his federal filing, and the state has to respond.
Then we get to scarf down Todd's best swine and laugh at the wailing supporters.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2010, 03:30:42 PM » |
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So when the little bastard does get the needle, it'll probably be sometime in 2012 or 2013? laugh at the wailing supporters.Same here brotha!  |
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2010, 12:24:49 AM » |
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So when the little bastard does get the needle, it'll probably be sometime in 2012 or 2013?
laugh at the wailing supporters.
Same here brotha!
Wow, that far away? I guess Lorri has a bit more time to make some more moula. |
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whitelilly
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2010, 10:59:55 PM » |
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I have been googling like crazy but can't find any updates on the Echols HC ruling. Anybody know when it's likely to come?
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2010, 05:33:33 PM » |
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As soon as the ASSC rules on Burnett's DNA ruling, the Defense will have to file an ammendment to the HC writ.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2010, 10:21:18 AM » |
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It's kinda funny when you think about it.
The Defense themselves said six years ago that there was no way the DNA test results could exclude the convicts, and what do supporters say to that?
"What do they know?"
Right! I forgot that you all believe that three teenagers somehow were so dang smart that they committed these crimes and left no DNA or took no DNA. BRILLIANT! Wow! Those are some crafty teenagers! Common sense. |
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2010, 10:37:19 AM » |
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Have they tested everything for DNA..you know so that the 3 can be excluded.
Thanks
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